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All you need to know about trading the world cup russia 2018

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It's not often the world cup comes around, so let's do it properly. Here is a lengthy video explaining my thoughts on the world cup Russia 2018 from a personal and Betfair trading perspective.
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Ron Whitehouse (4 months ago)
Peter i love your videos but please get to the point quicker please!
Carlos 500 (4 months ago)
Gerd Muller who played for Germany in the 70’s and would destroy opponents with all the goals he would score, and, knocked England out of the 1970 World Cup, unfortunately he Mullered them.
Lee Vincent (4 months ago)
Quick question, I'm just starting out with Betfair trading. I'm torn between purchasing Caan Berry's video pack & sports trading life dymanic football trading pack. Both £147. Does anyone know which one is better?
betangeltv (4 months ago)
If you are just starting out, stop searching for a golden bullet, put that money in your Betfair account and start participating in the market. There is loads of advice and support on this channel and in our forum and on the academy www.betangelacademy.com for free that should give you a good grounding. Most people lose money when they start trading so preserve your capital to use in the markets.
Kerry Lotery (4 months ago)
Hi all at betangel. Is there any chance that trading could lead to addiction, either trading or gambling addiction? Thanks, Kerry
betangeltv (4 months ago)
I watched strange addictions on Sky the other night and somebody was addicted to eating sand and another to sniffing petrol with obviously bad health issues resulting from both. So I guess it comes down to personality about what you could get addicted to and why. But can it be addictive, probably? However, I tend to be quite cold and clinical when trading.
Kai (4 months ago)
2014 World Cup was my first trading year and I didn't really know what I was doing, but I'm absolutely loving these prematch markets, I'm like a kid in a candy store. Best of luck to you and England.
betangeltv (4 months ago)
Slightly more volatile markets this year, but will learn more as the tournament unfold. Good luck to you.
SDRockman (4 months ago)
Hello Peter, I have still tried trading after calling it quits a few times, I have paid people for trading information about it and I am still not able to analyse things correctly because trades go against me . I noticed the only trading information for sale about any of the markets is the tennis trading course. I need help with horse trading but do not see any courses about that on the academy. Can I get some information with horse trading from yourself, as I have listened to everybody else and am getting nowhere.
betangeltv (4 months ago)
More content will be added in the coming months.
Philip Brown (4 months ago)
What's the situation with your office? Have you moved location?
betangeltv (4 months ago)
Yes, we have been busy kitting it out with all the latest equipment and other related things.
gutuami a (4 months ago)
now where on youtube would you get such a quality info. only on mr Webb's channel. Thanks Peter. it amazes me how much stats you keep and how you bend those stats.
betangeltv (4 months ago)
Thanks, there is a lot of hard work that takes place behind the scenes so it's nice that you can recognise that, much appreciated.
Andy Shortland (4 months ago)
would be interested if you’ve any stats on penalty shoot outs, not sure if it’s me but whenever the first team misses they seem to win?
betangeltv (4 months ago)
I've done a whole load of work on penalties. I did it for a goalkeeping coach.
1faustus (4 months ago)
Vuvuzelas!!!!! Some idiot on my road had one and wouldn't shut up. If he dusts it off this week there will be an Orient Express style murder. There will be a whole host of suspects and we'll all have a hand in it.
betangeltv (4 months ago)
A swarm of bees has never sounded the same to me since!
Ian Andrew-Patrick (4 months ago)
Surely "Mullered" originates in the performances of German ace poacher Gerd Muller?
MediaPC (4 months ago)
It's 1950's prison slang for being beaten up. Origin unknown. But there is a stem mul~ derived from the verb 'to die' in Sanskrit (the origin of Romani) so possibly even older. I'm not sure why I typed all that, i'm sure you've got google too.
betangeltv (4 months ago)
Perhaps, but I remember using it from when I was really young.
Josh Phillips (4 months ago)
Interesting video Peter, a few more on your best footie strategies would be good (lay 3.5, scalping corners etc).
Callum Perry (4 months ago)
About 21 minutes in you talk about your detailed notes on the correlation and links between how teams are seeded and how this affects the shape of the markets, I personally would love to see you talk about this either on here or on the forum. Personally, my memory of the 2010 World Cup is that of Lampard striking the crossbar against the Germans. I have never felt emotions like it. A confused 16 year old boy learned a harsh lesson that day about cruelty :')
betangeltv (4 months ago)
It was the first time my kids heard me totally lose it. I have so many memories I didn't want to do an hour long video!
Philosopher K (4 months ago)
Trading video on penalties would be great
Peter Riley (4 months ago)
I remember last tournament, someone shouted Sterling’s took a tumble...I pulled all my money out of shares, didn’t realise...Boom boom.
Shaun Pope (4 months ago)
I just saw this new video in my youtube feed & though wow a 30min video from Peter & then my heart sank. I used to get quite excited going through your videos because I believed they were helping, but they can't because I dont quite have that critical mass of knowledge to be able to use the information that you so kindly provide to create a way of using betfair/betangel to consistently make it work. This is not one of those comments from someone who trolls youtubes videos or is one of those people that is forever trying & failing at things & just will never get it, this is someone who would really like to make betangel work, but knows it wont work because Im missing the beginner information to get me started with all of those little details that allow me to self teach. I have spoken with the betangel team about having access to mentoring with which he replied that you they don't run such a service at the moment & mentoring is around £800/day in the low season which just does not work & I was left feeling pretty demoralized . The forums in all types of trading are full of people giving one another unproven advise & the products for betfair trading get you started but Im seeing regular stories of people trying for years & not being able to make it work & getting stuck. There has to be a way to create a program where someone who knows how to trade profitably is able to guide new young aspiring traders. They don't have to be millionaire traders, just a few levels up. In teaching trading there is no accountability for the teacher because you pay him money in return for knowledge & if the student can't make it work then its the student at fault. The instructor also walks away from training believing this. HoweverI know of one company that uses a different dynamic by creating a 50:50 profit sharing program where they train to become a professional level poker player & they only get paid if you profit vs other companies that get paid regardless. This means that their profitability increases the more they are able to pass on their knowledge successfully to their student & the student feels like the instructor is really invested in mentoring them rather than clock watching the dollars. The more volume of trades you make & the more effort you put into the group the more coaching & even one to one coaching you get. Its a really nice system. Then when the new traders are successful you have real tangible results that shows the world that ordinary people can make something of themselves & some of those students become the next gen of instructors & growth ensures. There must be away to start something like this in the sports betting & I would do everything to make an opportunity like that to work. I would love to hear your thoughts on this Peter as I know you having been a really positive advocate for exchanges/sports trading for many years. Thanks. Shaun
Shaun Pope (4 months ago)
Firstly massive thank you for replying. This is a very thoughtful post. Yes I have looked into the material & I have an idea of how betfair trading works, but I also have four years experience in poker & Ive taken the journey you are describing & I could not turn it professional. I could not turn it professional because I was lacking knowledge & the right people to sound board & was unable to figure out alone how to make consistently +EV decisions with full confidence that the mathematics backed up the decision. I was learning from forums, friends, video training packages, the odd coach with their own ideas of how they think its best to play but nothing that was a solidified theory. When I found betangel I saw the opportunity but at the same time Ive done that "4 year" journey & I know exactly whats going to happen without mentoring & a group of dedicated traders who are all at similar levels pushing themselves. You likely have this atmosphere in your office & I know something similar could be made available to others. It would be the first of its kind in betfair trading & it would move mountains in changing the way betfair education is conducted at the moment. I do really appreciate that you are making videos & some of them can be step by step, but theres a caveat. I bet you would be shocked if you sat 10 people down, asked them to watch not just the video you mentioned but a range of your videos or any youtube betfair based video & then you silently without saying anything watched how they actually interpreted the information & applied it in a real setting without guidance & then when you asked them to explain their reasoning behind each decision based off their current understanding of watching the online material you would find their is a monstrous gap in understanding or which is even more sneaky they kind of get it & then you give them feedback & they start to get it but imagine you weren't there to give them feedback & over a thousand situations & the effect of chinese whispers would then in the end leave them with that monstrous gap. I see this all the time in freediving & it can take months for me to get an athlete to the level where they can self teach, without that they all get lost & before I commit to trading I want to set everything up to increases the chances of becoming a successful professional trader just like you & Im not looking for quick ways or tricks to make money easily. Im looking to work really hard, spend all night long running through spreadsheets, reading theory & discussing my decisions to a very detailed level day in & day out for years, but Im only ever going to be able to fully go through that journey if I believe that the resources I have are enough to make that real. Without that confidence as soon as a few downswings come, its going to chip away at me & Im going to constantly want to quit & question what Im doing because thats what any sane person would do. But when there are times when Im learning & losing money or Im not figuring things out or Im in a plateau or nothing seems to be working, but I have the right guidance & they have the broader picture overview of where Im going then of course Im going to keep going & learning & trusting in the process. The profit sharing idea is running as we speak, called coaching for profits & its the only setup of its kind: https://www.bestpokercoaching.com/coaching-for-profits/ BPC track every bet you make & at the end of the month you have submit your data & 50% of your profit. The contract ends when you complete the amount of money you signed up to make which is £60k. Thats real life changing money even if you only get to take half & you pay BPC £30k for your tuition. This is the only way I could think of that would allow me access to either yourself or someone like yourself becasue then it's starts to become more worth their time. I currently live in Egypt to train here in Dahab in the blue hole as a freediving athlete to compete for the UK & for me to play poker online in Egypt doesnt work even with a VPN. So this year I learned about trading betfair who have no issues while Im living a training full time in Egypt to allow me to use their services. Gordon who owns BPC "best poker coaching" started with a few very dedicated people & got them to a level where they completely independent players. Some of those students now teach for him. You could do the same. Your time is valuable yes & so is your knowledge & people need your help. Its definitely possible for you to train someone within house to then mentor people like myself & you can oversee that process. Its possible & it shouldnt take too much time, a couple of sessions a week is all it will need to start with. I believe once you've finished moving the office, you could trial something simple to begin with & not financial risk to you. I'm grinding out a bank roll as we speak right from the bottom of the pit with match betting & I'm pulling all nighers doing it & Ive been doing this for 2-3months & Im telling you Im hungry to learn some real trading. I would be so greatful even if you sent a specific task or challenge, something that any one can do, I'll do it & write it up neatly, discuss my thinking, my results & make it easy for you or someone in your office to check & quickly give a few minutes feedback I will make the most of that information & be as respectful as possible of other peoples time & energy. I really really want to make this happen & be apart of what could be a huge shift in how as a community we go about providing the best sports trading education in the world. I hope this message finds you well. Shaun
betangeltv (4 months ago)
Have you looked at the material we have been putting on the academy, this is more than plenty to get you to first base? In terms of 'profit share' this more or less sounds like a prop desk scam that often does the rounds in financial markets. You deposit money into an account and get training from a group of 'professional' traders. If you do well they get a cut of your profits, but if you fail you lose your deposit. So they win whatever happens but most just lose their deposit. TBH there is no better teacher than participating in the market in my opinion. Most trading concepts are simple to understand but difficult to execute profitably, so practising the learning and skill required to do that is a really important part of the mix. But its something that very few people are prepared to really do. Most of the market is just populated with people who want to sell you things, so that's why it's easy to get confused. I bet you if you dig under the surface there are very very few people who can actually prove that they actually do what they say. But ultimately that's why my time is so valuable. If you look at my video I posted last week, it's right to the heart of a strategy you can use, but I bet you hardly anybody did that last week. Whereas I made £1k on just one race using exactly the same tactic as laid out in the video to the word. But I bet you the video won't be popular get shared much because it doesn't say, here is how I made £1k in ten minutes. But that also describes where you can find an edge in the market. People just want shortcuts and certainty, whereas trading is uncertain by nature and ultimately that's why people struggle to do it.
Brah Ma (4 months ago)
Great video! Have you ever done a video on how you go about collecting all your data? I'd love to start recording my own for analysis and finding patterns etc.
betangeltv (4 months ago)
I did one on data mining, but I don't think I've listed all the stuff I do on data, there is so much!
MegaVand (4 months ago)
You need to be really and I mean really, really careful with ur teory behind VAR and how Betfair handles bets during the time VAR is or might be reviewing whatever they need to review cause since last month Betfair changed they terms and conditions around disalowed goals and goals that are disalowed firstly and then given after the VAR review. Be really careful cause ur position in the markets might be the oposite of what u think cause they will void some bets either on the spot or days later ( I imagine that on the World Cup it would be on the spot tho ).
betangeltv (4 months ago)
The evidence so far is that the market is discounting VAR in the way I expected.
Paul Cook (4 months ago)
Totally agree about being careful with VAR. Betfair have already messed me over once with it and I wasn't even in the market when the VAR was being analysed. Yes it was only a German second tier match but it's still very early days with Betfair's new VAR rules. For example they really messed up continually in Portugal and France particularly this season, so they have to correct it, but their decision to void bets when they see fit is not a good stance.
Dylan Redmond (4 months ago)
All World Cup matches will be manually managed by Betfair and a cautious approach will be taken on VAR. Markets will most likely not reopen for betting during VAR consultation. I.e. Team A scores (1-0 up) markets remain suspended until goal is confirmed and match is kicked off. IF markets reopen in that period and the goal is retrospectively disallowed; Time based voids will be carried out on markets from when the markets were active while the goal was under investigation.
Asa J Trimnell (4 months ago)
You’ve just ruined my entire strategy!
MegaVand (4 months ago)
Imagine this scenario. Game 0-0 - "Home" team scores - Market opens before kick-off but u see the replay and spot an offside and the 0-0 CS market goes to 1000 and u back it cause the result will be reviewed to 0-0 again. After a few minutes u close ur position at 2 odd. They cancel ur back bets cause they reviewed their rules on this and will void the back bets and keep the lay bets at 2 and boom, a possible easy profit turned into a loss.
Jon Commons (4 months ago)
Football is shit
Barca Pundit (4 months ago)
You forgot to mention the 2002 World Cup, and your moment of that World Cup would have been the Ronaldinho free kick against David Seaman just my guess.
betangeltv (4 months ago)
Less about that free kick, please 😇
betangeltv (4 months ago)
I skipped a few or the video would have been even longer.

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